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Ok, I'm still waiting for the CFX/docking station review. In the meantime, does anyone know the brand and water lift of the 3 stage vacuums in the CFX? Does the 250psi lose pressure when it is triggered?

The more I look into the CFX the more I like it. Why get a super duper electric portable capable of 100 or more hose runs when the CFX is so light and versatile that it can be just 50ft or less from the operator? It already has high flow auto dump and who needs auto fill when it can hold 27 gallons of solution!? It's very easy to seperate the pod from the docking station to load/unload and carry up stairs. The 360i can even be plugged into the D/S.

It does not have a dirty water holding tank, but 99.9% of the time the drain hose can be run to a toilet or janitor's closet not really needing a holding tank.

What am I missing? Any disadvantages?
 

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Every pump loses pressure when the valve is triggered.

Okay, you've got your 27gal tank filled and mixed. You finish the downstairs with half a tank and are ready to move upstairs. How easy is it to haul 12gal up the stairs?

The other disadvantage lack of heat.

It's not a bad choice. I use the CFX pod a lot.
 

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Well, it's already been mentioned, but the pump will drop well below even 100 psi when you key the trigger. Unless you run very small jets with your RV 360, somewhere in the range of .25 gpm jets. Any higher than that and the 360 will out flow the pump and the pressure will drop substantially.

Next, not having a waste tank will put you at a huge disadvantage IMO. Maybe not on residential jobs, you'll probably always be within 50' of a toilet or drain. However, you won't always have that luxury on commercial jobs. I've done tons of commercial jobs where a janitors closet was over 100' away, sometimes on a different floor. The only real way to overcome that with the CFX would be to have several 5 gal buckets and do the bucket hustle.

If you have no quarrels with those you might be ok.
 

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You can run well over 100ft with the CFX pump out.
 

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You can run well over 100ft with the CFX pump out.
I'm not saying you can't, but do you want to do that? That's a lot of dirty water to leave in a hose. I can just see my luck while rolling up hoses, I leave a trail of dirty water 100' long.
 

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Install a shutoff on the hose and a QD. Raise it up, open the shutoff and roll it up. About 180ft is my current max.
 

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Install a shutoff on the hose and a QD. Raise it up, open the shutoff and roll it up. About 180ft is my current max.
I do the same thing on my 50' waste water hose, I love the QD's.

What size diameter hose are you using George?
 

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I do the same thing on my 50' waste water hose, I love the QD's.

What size diameter hose are you using George?
I use the clear hose that comes with it or a 5/8 garden hose. Tractor Supply had 130 commercial grade no kink on close out for $40 each. I bought several.
 

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I use the clear hose that comes with it or a 5/8 garden hose. Tractor Supply had 130 commercial grade no kink on close out for $40 each. I bought several.
Good to know. I pretty much only run 3/4", but my pump out is rated at 20 gpm.

Thanks George
 

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Is a docking station needed for this machine? If it's needed why? I'm buying a RV startup pack with the CFX, no docking station. Will buy the station later when funds permit and if the need presents itself. Just curious what benefits the station brings if the pod can bring in water from the faucet. Also are you guys happy with the CFX so far? The RV salesman I've been dealing with is a pretty good guy it seems like from my talks with him. He says that he isn't even looking at buying a TM since he's so happy with the CFX, but I take everything with a grain of salt when it comes to people pumping up their own products.
 

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Yeah, its needed. Or, another extractor is needed. Or, a way to meter chemicals into a feed. Not sure if tap water pressure will be enough for an inline-like hydroforce sprayers. To clean a carpet well, you need to pre-spray and agitate it, then rinse it with a solution to bring the ph down. Maybe you can clean with all neutral cleaners, but I am sure there will be many times you need a more powerful +pH pre-spray. Rotovac doesn't discuss this in the adverts. You will need something to get the proper mix of fiber rinse. By the time you buy a cheap extractor with a pump, or an inline water pump like a Water Hog (and metering system even if an in-line sprayer), you are at the cost of the docking station.

However, for portability, an extractor that breaks up in two is awesome. If only the pump could be upgrades (maybe it can). If you need heat, then ad an inline heater.
 

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The docking station allows you to mix 27gal of rinse solution and use a 250psi pump. For MUCH less than the docking station you can build a pump box that gives what ever pressure you decide is right that meters your chemicals. The CFX works fine by itself. It also works as an inline booster & auto pump out for a second porty.

I use Procyon Plus as my prespray because it's green and calls for a water rinse.
 
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who cleans the downstairs of a 2 story home first one should always clean from fartherest point first
 

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Yeah, its needed. Or, another extractor is needed. Or, a way to meter chemicals into a feed. Not sure if tap water pressure will be enough for an inline-like hydroforce sprayers. To clean a carpet well, you need to pre-spray and agitate it, then rinse it with a solution to bring the ph down. Maybe you can clean with all neutral cleaners, but I am sure there will be many times you need a more powerful +pH pre-spray. Rotovac doesn't discuss this in the adverts. You will need something to get the proper mix of fiber rinse. By the time you buy a cheap extractor with a pump, or an inline water pump like a Water Hog (and metering system even if an in-line sprayer), you are at the cost of the docking station.

However, for portability, an extractor that breaks up in two is awesome. If only the pump could be upgrades (maybe it can). If you need heat, then ad an inline heater.
I purchased a water otter, and a mytee turbo heater.That gave me a pretty killerset up- i dont use the docking station- i just let tap water run (just a drizzle) into a bucket in the sink- and allow the pump to draw from that.

I let my auto pumpout into a toilet drain.

best way ive found- compliments of my local rotovac salesman, my kngenuity, amd a few handy guys on this tmf forum:)
 

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I purchased a water otter, and a mytee turbo heater.That gave me a pretty killerset up- i dont use the docking station- i just let tap water run (just a drizzle) into a bucket in the sink- and allow the pump to draw from that.

I let my auto pumpout into a toilet drain.

best way ive found- compliments of my local rotovac salesman, my kngenuity, amd a few handy guys on this tmf forum:)
Clarification:
Water otter is a 1200psi adjustable solition pump.
Also can use an adjustable hydrojet presprayer inline (at pressures below 500psi) to mix in a cleaning solution, or a fiber rinse.
 

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water otter has the same pump as the CFX docking station RANGER...
and I believe the same pump in the mytee water hog...

It is a PUMPTEC 250-1200 PSI PUMP.....

But with the water otter you will have to by pass water off the unloader into a sink or you will burn up the pump.......that is why they put them in portables.....
 
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water otter has the same pump as the CFX docking station RANGER...
and I believe the same pump in the mytee water hog...

It is a PUMPTEC 250-1200 PSI PUMP.....

But with the water otter you will have to by pass water off the unloader into a sink or you will burn up the pump.......that is why they put them in portables.....
The Mytee Water Hog has a 9 gallon holding tank and the pump bypasses to that. It also has auto fill and chemical injection. Add a Mytee Air Hog and you’re golden.