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Sapphire Scientific Rage Vs Hydramaster 318HP

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I'm looking to buy a new truck mount, Either a Sapphire Scientific Rage or a Hydramaster 318HP.
I would like to know the pros and cons of each machine,
Any advise would be great!
 

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Neither of those entry level truckmounts impress me. How much more is a prochem legend?
 

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I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into prochem as there is no prochem distributers in Sydney
That's weird. I thought any dealer that could get sapphire or Hydramaster, could get prochem.
 

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Well, if you can't get a prochem, and tose two you mentioned is all you can afford, then i would choose the318. It seems to have more options
 

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If you can, stretch your budget and get a 370. That should keep you from catching need-to-upgrade-itis in a year or two.
 
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318 is a good machine but in my opinion the rage is the better of the two and it won't cost you as much to maintain it. I will tell you though you will be a lot happier if you can save just a little bit more and get the 370ss. If you are serious about this business it will not take you long to outgrow a rage or a 318.
 
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The 318 now comes with a pump clutch. 318 over the rage. But definitely try to go for the 370
 

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The 318 now comes with a pump clutch. 318 over the rage. But definitely try to go for the 370
The pump clutch is the reason to get the 318. For the price of the Rage, it Should come with a pump clutch also. They're not that expensive. I've had one truck mount without a pump clutch, and I'll NEVER have that situation again
 

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Save the extra $2k and get the 370 although I have a local mechanic telling me the Hydramasters are a better built unit overall.

He doesn't deal exclusively with either one and works on everything, just something he has noticed over time.

FWIW I have the 2500, it came with the business but I was looking at buying the 575 titan before the business opportunity came along.
 

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Hydramaster 318 $26000
SS Rage $23000
SS 370 $28000
Thats Aussie dollars
What type of inflation in your area is the money? Can you give us the average cost of a living room that you clean, or how much you charge persq. ft.?

The reason I ask, is because that seems like a lot of money to us, compared to the cost of our truck mounts over here. (about $10,000 more) I'm just wondering if your income is 33% more than ours, like the truck mounts are about that much more
 

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Simple supply and demand Matt, there is 24milliom Australians (give or take a million).

That's a very small market compared to USA.
Pricing is different all over, same as US.
 

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Simple supply and demand Matt, there is 24milliom Australians (give or take a million).

That's a very small market compared to USA.
Pricing is different all over, same as US.
Ok. Well how much is a gallon of gas, or a loaf of bread? Or minimum wage?
 
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The rage does have a pump cloth it is just additional, check with your dealer and see if they can add it and Def go with sapphire. The rage will get the job done but a 370 will only leave you wanting more if you need a dual wand machine.
 

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Simple supply and demand Matt, there is 24milliom Australians (give or take a million).

That's a very small market compared to USA.
Pricing is different all over, same as US.
If the cost of a truck mount is based on supply and demand over there, then there should be fewer carpet cleaning companies, which would make the demand for your services better over there, which should make your income better than ours. That's what I'm referring to.

I'm wondering if it's a ripoff to purchase one of those truck mounts over there, or go with another brand that someone makes in your country that's cheaper. Because it's certainly not worth the price that was mentioned above to us over here. I would rather risk a garage made truck mount before i spend that much on such a smaller truck mount.