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Tcs Chief II sputter

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I tried to attach a video but no luck. We have a chief 2 and when it's under load runs fine (wand on the carpet). But if I unhook attachment and have open hose end it starts to sputter almost sounds like the govener is cutting in and out? We've tried new plugs/ fuel pump and filter and air filter no luck. Sound familiar to anyone?
 

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Dang, I have a similar issue with the same machine. It's going back in the shop Monday for the 2nd time. The first time they said they found a pinched wire, when we got it back it was good for about a week and a half then started acting up again. It was also draining the van battery and left us needing a jump start after jobs. Intermittent problems suck.
 

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You may want to check the waste tank shut off float wires/ connection. My machine (not a Chief) did the same thing in the past and that was the issue for me. Just something to look at and a easy fix. Good luck my friends.
 
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Dang, I have a similar issue with the same machine. It's going back in the shop Monday for the 2nd time. The first time they said they found a pinched wire, when we got it back it was good for about a week and a half then started acting up again. It was also draining the van battery and left us needing a jump start after jobs. Intermittent problems suck.
Keep me posted on what you find out!
 
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I have a TCS Chief II. I’ve experienced similar symptoms and it was the belts. The belts are the Achilles heal on these units. Quick tip: take off the belt tensioner and the metal belt shroud...will help...trust me. Also, NAPA carries these belts. Buy six at a time. Mine usually last around six months now.
 
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I have a TCS Chief II. I’ve experienced similar symptoms and it was the belts. The belts are the Achilles heal on these units. Quick tip: take off the belt tensioner and the metal belt shroud...will help...trust me. Also, NAPA carries these belts. Buy six at a time. Mine usually last around six months now.
Are you saying run the belts with no tension pulley at all? and the metal shrouds what part of the puzzle would these play in solving the said issue? Just curious about how you reached these conclusions?
 

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Are you saying run the belts with no tension pulley at all? and the metal shrouds what part of the puzzle would these play in solving the said issue? Just curious about how you reached these conclusions?
When the belts get worn, and start to slip, the engine WILL have symptoms such as yours. Also, the belts are super tight without the tensioner engaged. As the belts go through multiple heat cycles, they loosen. If you try to engage the tensioner at this point you will destroy a belt...as they are weak. I don’t think the tensioners are aligned properly and aid in the degradation of the belts. Also, the black metal shroud entraps heat. When I removed both of these, my belts lasted twice as long.
 

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What size waste tank do you have and at what point does your vacuum relief valve pop off? 12...13...14? I’ve noticed as well that adjusting the vacuum relief to 15 inches of lift will create problems with the belts as well.
 

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Also, just curious, what type of heating system do you have?
 

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If it's fuel injected with a return fuel line I'd check the return line all the way to the tank.
The engine kill wiring from the dump tank float was also a good suggestion.
 

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I'd try the belt replacement first.
 
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I'd try the belt replacement first.
Just replaced belts about 100 hrs ago, I'm going to check float wires first . My curiosity comes from the fact that it only does it periodically , it's not a constant. I'll keep you guys posted and try to get a video up
 
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The link should work keep in mind its intermittent and usually occurs after the load is taken off the machine (unhooked suction hose)
 

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Hmmm. I’m assuming you have a fuel tap. Have you checked the level of fuel in the van when this happens?