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Which is the better portable machine Amtex Prowler or Jaguar 8.4

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Hello everyone, I am working on my business plan for starting my own Carpet and Tile cleaning company. I have solidified everything except for equipment. I want to make sure that I am versatile and can maximize the equipment that I buy for at least the first two years while I get established and make some money.

I am leaning towards an Amtex Prowler 14hp, because it has heat and is portable, because I can run it from my van or move it close to buildings if I have a bigger job. I live in a large metro-plex and I worry about the perception I would have from using a portable. All of the operations around my area that I have seen use truckmounts. The prowler new is going to run me about 7500 new, with a wand, 150 feet of vac/solution hoses. I am planning on serving higher-end residential homes and targeting mostly small commercial.

With the Jaguar, I have heard good things about it, but it doesn't have heat, so I would have to have an external heater. Seems like it would add extra time to setup versus something that is gas powered, and I have to use customers electricity. Will this unit work if I buy a generator?

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http://amtexequipment.com/prowler14hp.php

What are you thoughts between these two machines, are their other machines out there that I should be considering?
 
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I dont own either machine but I am interested in the replies to your inquiry. One plus of the jaguar is it can be used indoors for commercial when you have to close doors but having 2 or 3 plugs is no fun lol. Either should have the power you need for a reasonable price. The jag is cheaper and you could get a cimex or OP machine to offer some encap vlm cleaning.

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Hello everyone, I am working on my business plan for starting my own Carpet and Tile cleaning company. I have solidified everything except for equipment. I want to make sure that I am versatile and can maximize the equipment that I buy for at least the first two years while I get established and make some money.

I am leaning towards an Amtex Prowler 14hp, because it has heat and is portable, because I can run it from my van or move it close to buildings if I have a bigger job. I live in a large metro-plex and I worry about the perception I would have from using a portable. All of the operations around my area that I have seen use truckmounts. The prowler new is going to run me about 7500 new, with a wand, 150 feet of vac/solution hoses. I am planning on serving higher-end residential homes and targeting mostly small commercial.

With the Jaguar, I have heard good things about it, but it doesn't have heat, so I would have to have an external heater. Seems like it would add extra time to setup versus something that is gas powered, and I have to use customers electricity. Will this unit work if I buy a generator?

Amtex Prowler
http://amtexequipment.com/prowler14hp.php

What are you thoughts between these two machines, are their other machines out there that I should be considering?

Hello. I hope you found the answer you were looking for. It looks like it's been since August. Do you mind if I ask what you ended up doing?

I'm new to this forum. I've been in business about 6 years doing Mobile Car Detailing. Before that I worked for a company for 5 years that did Carpet Cleaning and Water Damage Restoration.

I'm interested in what you found out about the Amtex Prowler 14 HP. I've been seriously considering purchasing that machine from Houston. Is it a good machine? Since I do Mobile Car Detailing, I think it would give me what I need for a Power Washer and Vehicle Interior Steam cleaning. Also, I do some Carpet Cleaning on the side, so it seems like it would work for that.

I'm intrigued if anyone has any input?
 

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There are a LOT of guys here with very strong opinions one way or t'other on those Amtex machines. I'd do a search and see what they have to say.
 
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There are a LOT of guys here with very strong opinions one way or t'other on those Amtex machines. I'd do a search and see what they have to say.
Thank you. Yeah, I've looked into what's available and what has been said about it here. I haven't heard much about it in recent times though. The most I've seen about it is from 2 years ago or longer. So, I was just wondering about how it's looked at these days :)
 

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Jaguar is a great extractor with a 800 psi pump. I use a 2ht Propane heater. Over 2000 hours on the Jag . 3K plus on the heater.
Prowler is Gas TM / heat with a 2000 psi pump.
Suppose you could power wash with the Am..... But .....
 

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THE AMTEX PROWLER IS A VERY GOOD AND POWERFUL MACHINE. I GET INCREDIBLE VACUUM AND HEAT EVEN AT 300 FT. (SUMMERTIME) I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS LENGTH OF VAC HOSE IN THE WINTER. THE MACHINE IS EASY TO SERVICE AND REPAIR. A HUGE ADVANTAGE IS THAT WHEN YOU TAKE MACHINE IN FOR SERVICE, YOU CAN LEAVE THE MACHINE AND DRIVE YOUR TRUCK AWAY. I HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES BUT RESOLVED WITH A PHONE CALL TO BEN. BEN HAS VIDEOS ON YOU TUBE THAT SHOULD BE WATCHED NUMEROUS TIMES IN ORDER TO GET THE SEQUENCE OF START UP AND SHUT DOWN PROPERLY. UNLIKE MANY OTHER TRUCKMOUNTS, THIS MACHINE CAN BE WHEELED OFF YOUR TRUCK WHEN VEHICLE NEEDS TO BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS.
 
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I believe the prowler comes without a tank and a pumpout....
Better vacuum wo a tank. But may be some places you won't be able to pumpout?????
 

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I believe the prowler comes without a tank and a pumpout....
Better vacuum wo a tank. But may be some places you won't be able to pumpout?????
Ciorrect, the Prowler has no waste tank. The waste water goes directly thought the Prowler's blower and shoots out the exhaust side of the blower.
 

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Talked w gardner Denver guys a while back and they said they have blowers that have more room for particles to come thru and it would be fine for water pumping through y the pump....
 

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Talked w gardner Denver guys a while back and they said they have blowers that have more room for particles to come thru and it would be fine for water pumping through y the pump....
Originally I was told these blowers were made to actually pump water. You just need to make sure you dry them out afterwards.
 

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Yes that's what they told me for pumping water........
I'm sure that's what Ben is using.....

I also hear there is a massive increase in vacuum wo a tank......
Probably overrated....
But I am guessing only maybe 50-100 feet more of hose.....
They told me you lose a lot of vacuum in a tank......
I have done some testing and still undecided but there is a large increase wo a tank???
Anyone ever done testing on a tm wo a tank????
 

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I wouldn't know about the vacuum difference but that certainly would be a deciding factor for me to buy a prowler. If you have a need for a portable that you can used outdoors then it has it's use....otherwise get a regular truckmount, you'll miss a waste tank more than a couple CFM if any...really if your pumping water through your blower you'd have to think your losing some CFM anyway.

We run a prowler on our lot to clean RVs on display without having to move the units. I am looking to buy a regular TM with wastetank for our detail dept for the bulk of our cleanings.
 
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Yes that's what they told me for pumping water........
I'm sure that's what Ben is using.....

I also hear there is a massive increase in vacuum wo a tank......
Probably overrated....
But I am guessing only maybe 50-100 feet more of hose.....
They told me you lose a lot of vacuum in a tank......
I have done some testing and still undecided but there is a large increase wo a tank???
Anyone ever done testing on a tm wo a tank????
Every time you go through a tank with baffles (resistance) there is a decrease in CFM. We maintain 285 CFM with a 45 blower (turning at 3600 RPM) through this external tank filter even as it fills with debris from a whole day of cleaning.
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So for sure without a tank that you are going to be at the rated CFM for the rpm the blower is turning.
 
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Yes that's what they told me for pumping water........
I'm sure that's what Ben is using.....

I also hear there is a massive increase in vacuum wo a tank......
Probably overrated....
But I am guessing only maybe 50-100 feet more of hose.....
They told me you lose a lot of vacuum in a tank......
I have done some testing and still undecided but there is a large increase wo a tank???
Anyone ever done testing on a tm wo a tank????
I don't believe there is a big increase in vacuum without a waste tank. But there is a much shorter delay. When you lift your wand and fill not only your wand, vacuum hose, but also your waste tank with air, there will be a few seconds or so once your wand hits the carpet before the blower has a chance to kick out all the extra air and begin to vacuum. So if there is no waste tank yes I agree there is a shorter "dead time" once the wand hits the floor. JMO
 

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I wouldn't know about the vacuum difference but that certainly would be a deciding factor for me to buy a prowler. If you have a need for a portable that you can used outdoors then it has it's use....otherwise get a regular truckmount, you'll miss a waste tank more than a couple CFM if any...really if your pumping water through your blower you'd have to think your losing some CFM anyway.

We run a prowler on our lot to clean RVs on display without having to move the units. I am looking to buy a regular TM with wastetank for our detail dept for the bulk of our cleanings.

I got a used Hydramaster CDS and van I could be persuaded to sell. :) Hey look at my motor home I bought a few months ago. 9,200 original miles on it.
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