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You don't always need to pre spray!!!!!

Fedri

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not if your customer does it before you get there
In some cases I find that they have not maintain their vacs, this leaves alot behind and my airhog filter fills up quickly because of poor pre vacuuming by the customer.
 

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How important is it to determine if it’s poly or nylon? I always make sure I determine if it’s wool, or synthetic but never if it’s poly or nylon. I do know how to do a burn test, but never checked after knowing if it’s synthetic or not
 

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How important is it to determine if it’s poly or nylon? I always make sure I determine if it’s wool, or synthetic but never if it’s poly or nylon. I do know how to do a burn test, but never checked after knowing if it’s synthetic or not
On those extremely lightly soiled carpets it really doesn't matter. (And here's where I caused real controversy) it really doesn't matter!! if it's wool or synthetic polly or nylon. After 20 years I understand that people way over complicated do what's needed to do for the customer and have their best interest in mind

I have jobs sometimes that just would require a good vacuuming and I could walk away and charge them. But I never turn down a room if they ask so I freshen it up after vacuuming it I just go over real quick they're happy that it is done then not done
After all my most of my customers only see me every 6 months so I'm there I might as well hit it.
 
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@AZHome&Carpet IICRC will have you doing burn tests and all sorts of sh!t just to clean a dirty carpet. Its really never an issue, and youll learn to tell just by looking at the carpet 95% of the time.

The only thing to know about poly really is it loves oil and dont pre spray super heavy because the water will go straight to the pad faster, if its really dirty and a big house just do a few rooms at a time.
 
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@AZHome&Carpet IICRC will have you doing burn tests and all sorts of sh!t just to clean a dirty carpet. Its really never an issue, and youll learn to tell just by looking at the carpet 95% of the time.

The only thing to know about poly really is it loves oil and dont pre spray super heavy because the water will go straight to the pad faster, if its really dirty and a big house just do a few rooms at a time.
Well actually we weren’t taught that in class. The instructor basically said what you did. That’s why I was asking do people really test for nylon and poly? We were told basically make sure if it’s natural or synthetic. There was a lot on the different type of fibers but not really any difference in cleaning. There was a few differences as far as nylon verses polyester etc.... but not much emphasis on having to change chemistry much.
 
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Well actually we weren’t taught that in class. The instructor basically said what you did. That’s why I was asking do people really test for nylon and poly? We were told basically make sure if it’s natural or synthetic. There was a lot on the different type of fibers but not really any difference in cleaning. There was a few differences as far as nylon verses polyester etc.... but not much emphasis on having to change chemistry much.
I was taking my iicrc classes.
the knowledge will always be with me
But I can tell you I know far more than I did in those classes. Booksmart does not apply to job smart you cannot imagine the guys that try to get away you lose using the wrong cleaner you have to have a large tool box of chemicals to do the things I suggest. I have several homes that have wall-to-wall wool. I use all will save cleaners and have zero issuesbut what I'm really going to pull the carpet out and clean it in my wash Pit!!! So I can tell you one thing for sure my competitors won't!!
Some things are taught to up sale.
So if one of my customers would like me freshen up clean their den that never gets used sure. In that case I would use the acid rinse And the customer is thrilled.
But someone following iicrc to the letter well simply put aggravate the client (you mean you have to pull my rug out that's never been stepped on) seriously.

Knowledge is power use power when it's reasonable. The seriously guys is just carpet cleaning!!!
 
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I saw his chemical test, and I know the burn test... but is there much need in the real world to make the determination? I’d guess it’s no you can gauge the amount of product needed?
 

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I saw his chemical test, and I know the burn test... but is there much need in the real world to make the determination? I’d guess it’s no you can gauge the amount of product needed?
well hell yeah there is a huge need to know what your dealing with, you need to pick the right chems for the different carpets you encounter...

This isn't Obamacare , one chem doesn't work on all carpets !
 

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Lol, well I check currently if it’s synthetic or natural. But I don’t test currently if it’s nylon or poly.
 

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You will soon be able to tell by how the fiber looks and wears if it's nylon or polyester. You should be cleaning them differently for optimum results.
By the end of 2019 I’ll make it a goal to be able to tell by looks! Sure it can’t be that hard. On most chemicals it doesn’t tell you a different ratio for poly vs. nylon that I’ve seen
 

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Lol, well I check currently if it’s synthetic or natural. But I don’t test currently if it’s nylon or poly.
you will not run into a lot of natural fibers like wool or cotton carpets these days , most of it will be poly because there are few nylon carpet mills anymore... if any
 

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By the end of 2019 I’ll make it a goal to be able to tell by looks! Sure it can’t be that hard. On most chemicals it doesn’t tell you a different ratio for poly vs. nylon that I’ve seen
that's right they don't give you ratios for different fibers,, that's on you and your knowledge of the chems and experience level.... when I walk into a home , first I determine the fiber im dealing with then I guage the carpet on a clean to filthy meter or a range of 1-10 with 10 being horrible dirty... 1 - scoop per horrible factor with 10 or more scoops for the 10 on the scale.. hopefully that makes sense....
 
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So In a ideal world which takes less product if both are equally dirty?